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Notes on - Legends of Tomorrow - The Need for Speed

 

The Need for Speed notes

We pick up where we left off.  Gary is Hoover sick and Behrad knows a surprising amount about engines.

It feels like the soda should lead somewhere but it doesn’t.

Nate is taking hoover being dead really hard

I like that they’re remembering that nate is a historian for once.

Nate’s realluy just underlining that they’ve been stripped of all their critches and might have to deal with consequences for once

Having Nate pretend to be Hoover so no one realizes he’s dead as a way to keep the timeline on track is pretty clever

Is Gary only nauseus as an excuse to cough up hair for the spell or is that a clue that Hoover isn’t really Hoover?

LOVE the updated old timey credits.

Interesting that Spooner, who’s known Gideon the least, is the one to recognize her

How funny, after years of being a voice with no physical presence they’re having her be a presence with no voice.

Oh, was the soda bottlwe just to get a vessel to make the potion in?

***My safe word is ‘Core Competency’.

Palmer raids?

Behrad doesn’t want to turn out the honeymoon couple.

Good trick, using the Bullet Blondes to distrtact everyone and get on the train

I have quetuions about the rules for the door key.

Sweet that Behrad remwembered that it’s technically their honeymoon and gave them chocolates

Zari:  You see, I found myself… on a journey… and that journey... is with these tiny, little bears.

Ava:  If you need anything, please don’t hesitate to come and find us.  Actually, hesitate a little.

Sara:  Oh, hesitate a lot.

Zari:  Ew, that’s gross, moms.

Hoover’s nickname was Speed?

Nice tweek that they have no idea how long the potion would last and that drinking it in front of Behrad and Gary means they aren’t affected by it.

Lots of cool camara trickery doubling Nate and Hoover based on who’s looking.

They’re leaning too hard into Behrad not being cool with Nate having to act like a dick in order to pretend to be Hoover.  It doesn’t not work, but it feels a little forced.

Gideon is making smiley face apples a la Amy Pond’s mum

Was it just the mention of Dr. Davies that made Gideon glitch and pass out?

Tala Ashe must have had a ball playing stoned

Ava is really giving Zari good advice

Zari:  At minimum it will give me an excuse to leave this room, because you guys?  Are very loud.

Ava:  What?  Come on.  We’re not loud.

Zari:  ‘Core… competency.’  Boop.

Their pushing the ‘Nate has to pretend to be racist by being shitty to Behrad and Gary, but wouldn’t they read Gary as being another white guy?   This feels forced and oversimplified.  Plus there’s no other reason for the purse theft scene but making that point, which feels like a waste of time.

The crash zooms into suspicious behavior is pretty fun though.

Like, why is Behrad irritable about people applauding Nate for finding the purse. It’s just to make some sort of Donnie Brasco ‘he’s in too deep’ theme, but he really isn’t.

I like Gloria forcing Astra to recognize Gideon’s humanity

Calling her Gideon’s mother is a bit of a stretch though

Spooner:  Now what will the team do with a human Gideon?

Astra:  Probably just give her Rory’s old room.

Gloria makes a relatively good point that if they haven’t shown up yet then they can’t have time travel

The two new g-men are really pushing that the kidnappers must be foreigners.  They’re still pushing the racism of the time angle

Pretty funny that the train is split between pro government rich and anti government poor and both teams hear exactly what they’re expecting

I feel like the writer wanted to include a lot more ‘look how Shotty Hoover and his anti labor anti minorities views were and we’re still dealing with that legacy, but most of it got stripped out in favor of a lighthearted romp.

Oh oh, dilemma for Nate.  Can he justify beating an innocent suspect in order to keep his cover

Zari:  Oh boy.  Very sad party of one happening here.

She’s right, you don’t keep whiskey in the fridge. But where can I get that magic whiskey making fridge?

Is Zari explaining the multiverse via bottle of whiskey

Zari’s making perfect sense, Ava

Why haven’t they stopped to consider where the other waverider came from vis a vis their timestream

Nate, you’re not nobody in the timeline  You’ve saved the world like a hundred times.  I get what he means though.  He’s viewing through the ‘great man’ view of history

Gideon is clearly trying to tell you something Astra.  What so the apple heads mean??

Spooner:  It’s six apples in a box, off the table on the floor.

Astra: Thank you, Dr. Seuss.

It’s got to be the legends she’s recreating.  And is the box the waverider?  Is she warning them about something if they get the ship back?

Oh, Gideon looks so hurt by Astra’s outburst

Astra feels like she’s useless because she couldn’t bring the waverider back

Good question, what does Spooner bring now that communing with aliens isn’t necessary?  Can she still switch people’s powers around like the finale

Wires and sockets.  Gideon was trying to do what Astra said and almost died.’

The ever increasing number of whiskey bottles is pretty damn funny.

Zari is so nonchalant about having read the time bureau manual and is now labelling whiskey bottles with post its of every significant character in Legends history.  That’s probably going to lead nicely into all the guest casting for the 100th episode.

It’s about who blew them about.  About damn time somebody questioned that

Nate’s solution to the problem is pretty cute.  Though they cut it like we’re supposed to seriously believe that Nate was really beating him with the lamp.  Somebody really wanted this to be the last temptation of Nate at one point.

That’s why Igor had been beaten by Hoover before.  It was a ‘you’ve become the man you hated’ moment for Nate

Good twist reveal that the ‘g-men’ were the kidnappers

Oh, poor nate.  His big fuss in Midland caused yet another aberration in the timeline.  They weren’t supposed to know he was on the train or try  to kidnap him.

They work for Al Capone, as do all the guys outside the train

What is Nate planning to do to make this right exactly? This was probably intended to be his ‘repentence for going too far with taking on the role of Hoover’ moment.

Perfect time for the spell to wear off!

David Bowie is on the list of people who might be trying to kill them.

Fun tour of past villains ‘

Ava: Ah, these guys over here. We got Time Pirates. Time wraiths.  Time witches.  Clones. Dopplegangers. Ourselves. Time itself.

Zari:  Ok, let’s call that the ‘why the hell not’ pile.

They make a big deal out of hiding the final bottle label.

And this is where he resolves his internal ‘J. Edgar Hoover important, me nobody’ dilemma that he had previously been addressing by becoming more like Hoover.

Is Mr. Nobody a sly Doom Patrol reference?

Nate being super chill about the option for them to kill him and mess up his face was very on brand.

As is deep breathing exercises with Al Capone’s men.

Al Capone is a big fan of the Bullet Blondes

Nate really didn’t treat either Behrad or Gary particularly badly.  They had a couple very minor differences of opinion and that was it.

 Such a great final commercial break twist reveal of another Hoover

Hoover is very deliberately not going for kill shots with these guys.

The fake face effect is pretty good

The final bottle was ‘Robot’

I don’t know, the previous Hoover was acting very T1000 as well.

If the Robot hadn’t announced his self destruct sequence he totally would have killed them all

Astra does a nice heartfelt apology

Spooner didn’t speak until she was six years old

Nov. 7th 1925, the time travel experiment will take place

Spooner’s touch allows her to read thoughts.  -ish

If the Legends get to Dr. Davies they’ll be killed.  Enter Gideon who now can speak, Spooner and Astra to the rescue.

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